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  1. Sorry, but your posting confused the heck out of me. Perhaps the best is that we should chat.
    Once you have a strong connection with someone (six month living together seems a good way to determine this) then that relationship will always be there and a potential to rekindle. So the tools can work. You refer to a strong foundation, so I assume you have that connection.
    I would start with the short connections that I refer to in “When to fold 'em.” But I think it might be better to chat first, cuz I'm not clear about your situation. http://www.alturtle.com/blog/_archives/2008/12/9/4014180.html

  2. Hi Al Turtle,
    Your writings are all incredibly insightful and have helped me so much in understanding how to become a better partner. My question is if these techniques can be used on relationships that are currently ended or reached a critically stressful state. I have read everything about reliable attachment, validation, testicle principle, the university of life, and what to do when someone won't talk to you.
    Recently my ex and I have split, and I think not whole heatedly from either side. What happened was we had a wonderfully strong connection, and about three weeks ago she started hanging out with a guy friend and I became increasingly frustrated and pulled away a little. Trying to set boundaries, and I think we were hitting the power struggle state. She started to pull away, saying she needed time to heal from her ex so she can come back to with me everything she has, she is recently divorced. That she wants me in her life for a long time and she needs to be alone to heal. I clinged and was worried about other men, and it pushed her away further. Then I pushed her all the way away by ending the relationship with a mean email and intiating no contact in person last time we spoke.
    I feel in my heart this relationship is not over, but I am afraid now that passivity, and avoidance will concrete the resentful feelings. And I read that since I am the clinger here, I am responsible for making the first move. I would be grateful if you could point me in the direction of opening the door again. Or if any of these techniques can work in a state of no contact, with an extremely avoidant type of person. I know we have a strong foundation, and I am afraid she is putting a wall up in fear of rejection.
    Daniel

  3. Dear Susan,
    I hear your distress. And I like the phrase you use “I was the clingy.”
    First let me remind you that you don't have to do anything you don't want. If you want to fix the situation, I say “if”, then what I have written may be helpful.
    Now for a bit of theory. I remind you that I don't think anyone is officially a clinger. In fact, it seems to me that everyone who is out dating, at that time are clingers – they want more connection with others than they have currently. As they start to date, they may, and usually do, shift a bit into the clinger-avoider pattern. After some time they may become deeply stuck. Of course, if the clinger then starts to leave, their partner may “wake up” and switch. I have seen this often.
    My paper is all about my experience that the clinging partner can fix the problem easily while the avoiding partner usually cannot. The pattern you describe suggests you were pretty a) clingy and b) blind to what was going on in your partner.
    Things change when you wake up or notice new things. I hope you continue toward what you want.

  4. Originally I was the clingy. I said too many I love you's and hugged my husband all the time. He asked me to back off. I work evenings so my husband is often alone, which I believe gives him enough space, but gradually I slowed down until I finally stopped all clinging. Still, he has moved out of our bedroom. We not only don't sleep together, but we rarely have sex anymore. We do very little together, so we've grown apart. As a result, I've become more and more distant, but he hasn't responded by persuing me. Am I still officially the clinger who must initiate a solution? I don't even feel like fixing it anymore.

  5. Well, you are certainly struggling. This business of reversing (switching from avoiding to clinging) seems completely normal to me. I think the surprise about this is caused by our tendency to use nouns, solid words, to describe processes. I find it better to think of myself as clinging, when I am moving to get contact, and avoiding, when I am moving away or toward quietness.
    Sounds to me as if the Reliable Membership issue really got you both. At first he was needy (clingy) and you were pulling away from his neediness (and invalidating it). Without knowing how to solve this problem, things got worse for both of you – particularly him. Sounds as if he then gave up hope (dispair) and started to pull away – perhaps looking elsewhere. By the way, this is one typical, and logical, time when affairs may occur.
    Apparently he didn't believe that your change (from avoider to clinger) was something he could rely on. Remember, unconsciously he doesn't want a clinger, he wants reliable contact. That's too bad he can't see your good intentions. But then who knows.
    I suggest you carefully learn the Reliable Membership phenomena and learn the tools of solving it. I believe that if you have struggled with this in the past, you will face it again in the future. Seems as if these problems return and return until you decide to learn the solutions. Good luck.

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